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This site is not affiliated with any similar named top level domains & my objective is to provide an augment to the cause of the global banishment of ECT (electroconvulsive therapy treatments) by presenting an argument that the tactics to coerce patients into attempting the treatment become more transparent when applying the idea of an ongoing enticement (carrot on a stick) paradigm that is utilized overall to persuade a (vulnerable & often disadvantaged) person to try; and then continue to stake their physical well-being on such a frivolous pursuit. There are people that currently use it & swear by it, but they can be the providing "physicians'" lackeys & are themselves seeking reinforcement of their self-harm by proxy "benefit".

I personally wasn't going to involve myself to this extent with this cause due to emotional toll (oh, sadistic people catch on & are always ready to scapegoat an advocate for human rights!) ... but it dawned on me that the providers were using an ongoing enticement tactic when I read the account of someone who experienced the sessions. He wrote that there were a series of them that he committed to, and completed in spite of the fact that there was another event in his life during the interim between sessions that was a hindrance. (Note: I re-read over those parts in Matt's book & he missed three appts. He was still determined though, is the point.) It became clear that it was by his principles that he was resolved to follow through with finishing his appointments.

So then it becomes more obvious that there are the tactics of appealing to a patient's own moral ethics (don't waste peoples' time unless you're serious, type thing), & exploiting their desperation. The patient is validated by the attention and acceptance. They'd feel an inclusion into a prestigious & esoteric cult that is even gov't & culturally sanctioned. With everything said & done the patient doesn't have much alternative but to see it as a positive experience so there's placebo, too!

I further contend here that if there is physical benefit it is possibly only an adrenaline rush produced in the body that causes an endorphin release ... I haven't made a point to look into that idea further ... but a person could feel tough by enduring the treatment even with the (newer) anesthetics used. I don't want to know much about the drugs used either but I once seen somebody say there's a new one used that helps "reboot the brain", was the way it was phrased. ⇽ I was involved in an argument on social media where someone was insisting that it was the anesthetic, propofol, that helped "reset" the brain but the person may have associated the article I found (prior link given) with ECT. The words "reset" & "reboot" are both liberally used in pseudo-scientific articles that I've found though, such as here & here.

Note: I had the idea that the word exhilarating may be applicable for the benefit and so I searched for electroconvulsive therapy "exhilarating" (the quotes to show results that include the word). One of the results contained the word but in comments of an article and not directly associated with the treatment. The article is actually in defense of ECT by a recipient, Natasha Tracy, that was published a bit over a decade ago. The comment that includes the word is praising Natasha's article and is from another woman who professes to benefit from the treatments. Natasha's argument is flawed from the beginning though, since she presents it from a skewed perspective (meant to shame those who advocate against ECT) in that it's implied that it's the recipients that we find fault with for cooperating with the providers. It's really taking part in promoting the treatments ... vehemently defending ECT to the point of quoting some neurological details on how well it's actually understood by the doctors ... again, to shame us ... if it's so well understood then why would there be any discernible "memory loss"? (she admits is a side-effect). The question needs to be asked is how could that be accurately evaluated? Granted, I'm thinking that there'd be a retort of "there's memories I'd like to forget" but that's an irrational, emotional defense. I would like to point out that there's also coinciding natural maturing process of the person where they can feel invincible when young adults that can outwardly be revealed with their recklessness and physical risks taken for excitement and that normally would subside in late twenties. (We call that a "variable".)

In this light I would also point out from personal observation (and I'm inserting two paragraphs here, this one and the preceding one, so I may have already mentioned this...) but there are the people in the mental health system culture who are fine with the role of perpetual patient ... people that like to take any opportunity to talk about the abuse they've endured ... oftentimes in such a way to shame anyone who takes a minute to listen ... and that's their purpose in this life in their view. I used the term self-mutilation by proxy which is (obviously) oxymoronic, but as fitting as I can come up with. To promote that lifestyle isn't very responsible or fair. I've probably also mentioned that the recipients are seeking reinforcement and Natasha's article seems to affirm that theory. I'd like to also note that there was a man that commented about ECT helping his wife and he included a link to their/her blog but the link is dead. What's the mortality rate among the people merely commenting on Natasha's article? How many that defended it a decade ago still would now? (I'll probably use the article comments to delve into doing some of my own research eventually.) In the U.S. the confidentiality laws coupled with the exception of a patient's right to review their own psych records is used to the providers' advantage to cover the violating of 14th Amendment U.S. Constitutional rights of people caught up in their system.

The proponents' argument for ECT is a house of cards when critically scrutinized! There are a lot of ostensibly legitimate articles that tout ECT as life-saving but there are also many people who regret receiving treatments (and mention their brain damage) yet are not being heard in the medical journal articles or in "mainstream media" when the topic is covered!

Oh! Their other argument is that ECT is non-invasive but my contention is that the "non-invasive" is based on accepted cultural concept of electricity; that it's energy & not a physical material substance or object (& drop the subject since it is a scientific thing & they're the "scientists" there so don't worry about that, type thing), but a question I had is "do electrons have mass" and there was an answer here: "Why does an electron have mass?". Someone with a bachelor's degree in science from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute included in the answer: "We know that electrons have mass because we’ve measured it directly.", so electricity has physical mass (or weight) so it is invasive in the literal sense of the word. The providers should know that & disclose the information to the potential recipient!

This article, Electroconvulsive Treatment: Hypotheses about Mechanisms of Action, confirms my theory that the electricty doesn't do anything beneficial that couldn't be achieved in some other truly non-invasive way. I used the expression "adrenaline rush" because that was a generic term that I used when I was younger. I surmised that the people promoting the treatment might've never had such a sensation without a coinciding physical event. There is a kind of (dangerous) illicit drug combination that a person can experience with narcotics or barbiturates and stimulants, i.e., heroin & "speed", that will produce similar sensation without any external physical stimuli. I personally have never tried that combination but have experienced what I determined to be similar sensation with an effective combination of drugs. That was one of my personal comparisons that I utilized, anyway.

In some countries it is legal to use ECT on a involuntary (non-consenting) patient in spite of the fact that the United Nations Human Rights Council has condemned forced psychiatric treatment, including electroshock therapy (ECT).


Dr. Alice Stewart alerted the medical community that x-rays used on pregnant women can harm unborn children and was countered with a study related to the effects of atomic bomb radiation, but there was a difference in type of exposure. 30 more years of x-rayed babies before it changed. (So there's that to consider).

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The content here may seem disjointed in relation to banning ECT (electroconvulsive treatments) but I utilize a webpage template of sorts and below is some info about me that I had previously written for a different page.


Incidently, the author of this page was once instructed to not return to a Bible study group held by members of a local North metro area, working class populated church (in Northglenn, no less), for not agreeing with them that the Westboro Baptist Church was doing a good thing when they protested Matthew Shepard's funeral. (I told them that rest assured, the church would reveal their true colors in the future and they're now known to be a right-wing fringe organization.)

Also, this nextdoor.com post about a lost elderly man with tardive dyskinesia included a front door "Ring" video and it was one of the reasons I had to give up my account with that social media platform because I have no defense against misinformed pride in (perceived) social class. (The lack of humility, or lack of basic human compassion or conscientiousness, is what I mean in that use of the word, pride. Maybe arrogance or obstinance would be better descriptions.) People will begin to stigmatize & stereotype. It is vigilantism. It's Theory of Forms arguments where complacency & ignorance are mutually inclusive (aren't mutually exclusive, or whatever) but it's just people's "schadenfreude", is all. Something to do other than actually learning something. By my Quaker-ish background, however, a particular use of some word like "pride" isn't owned by anyone. What is pragmatic is clarifying a standard of accessibility for people in general on local gov't news-feeds on social media. A city's presence on a social media platform is not something that should need restricted access set with parental control software.

My take on the rudimentary philosophy of Theory of Forms simply put is that it's the idea that there exists a perfect form of everything and in our reality we only get an imperfect, yet immutable, imitation of that form. The point being is that the argument gets to be about the superiority of those who accept the imperfect form as it is, or who's fault it is that it's imperfect, etc. It's a way to feign superiority & scapegoat or browbeat others. The people who are (most often) considered as inferior are actually people who've suffered violent trauma, and experienced being tormented, belittled, bullied, etc. because of their subsequent lack of confidence or other eccentricity they may assume (affectation) in order to compensate for social awkwardness or otherwise cope. Discussing anything more than generalities, often relying on using platitudes, e.g., "This is a land of opportunity.", "There's someone for everybody.", etc., is met with derision. The person wanting to discuss details, or delve into social science (sociology), of a political issue is the one thereby assigned to fix it since they seem to know so much. The compassionate & resistant person is informed that they need to conform. Ignorant people will be all about how others should feel, etc. The culture of people videoing other unsuspecting people after deliberately scaring them is a symptom of that social degradation.

The other example of a person gaining sympathy from the (ignorant) general public when it isn't deserved is the Facebook group(?) titled "Mama Jennifer and friends". The woman originally launched the group in her son's name because of some support given for her son being a victim of bullying at school. He fought back, or something, and the story went viral. It was originally "Colin and friends" but she was making it more & more about her, enjoying the notoriety. She doesn't really even try to take care of herself, though. She'll drink huge cups of lattes and the like. She'll start teaching jobs and get fired soon after. Her children are labeled "mentally ill" and it must be "society's fault", or God's fault, or maybe it's "the man". (Who knows?)

There was another incident that is significant in regards to my assertion that ignorant people will rely on platitudes and projection (or transference, but that word is used differently now) but that is what I meant by people being "all about how others should feel...". There was two indigenous young me that went to a college tour and the police were called on them. The way that they were dressed was pretty clear indication that they were young and student-ish. Native men don't have the same confidence that other young men would have in a similar situation. They were/are an oppressed people, everybody knows that much, but their history should never reflect in their demeanor? "Shy" could be another descriptive word, albeit it's belittling. The point is that there is too much of people discussing why other people are the way that they are and not enough straight out and asking, or other attempts at communicating directly with the person or people that's being discussed.

Another point that I could make about discussing details, or delve into social science (sociology), of a political issue, is regarding immigrants. It's presumed that the people weren't forced out of their own country or faced levels of danger to where earning a living wouldn't be possible without giving in to committing violence themselves against a much more powerful entity. From what I've personally seen, the vast majority of South American immigrants are relatively short people. It's cruel to get involved in discussing the issue without taking that information into consideration. The conservatives are split into two main factions in our country. Those that associate their faith (religion) with their political perspective, and those who remain quite secular in that they support capital punishment, charging minors as adults for alleged crimes, and torturing war prisoners. The latter group posits that it's up to them to pick up the slack by making "the tough decisions" and they "understand" that their religious cohorts just don't have the moxy. The former group are exploited in a sense because they want to maintain their values and moral compass. That dynamic should be obvious to any leberal democrat but of course, by matter of form, the different factions are combined into one for the purpose of political rhetoric.


Photograph of my old department crewmembers & I displaying our
Battle Efficiency Award onboard the now decommissioned USS Wabash AOR-5


If men were angels, no government would be necessary.
~ James Madison

The biggest danger to our rights today is not from government acting against the will of the majority
but from government which has become the mere instrument of this majority...
Wrong will be done as much by an all-powerful people as by an all-powerful prince.
~ James Madison



Class conflict is another concept which upsets the oppressors, since they do not wish to consider themselves an oppressive class. Unable to deny, try as they may, the existence of social classes, they preach the need for understanding and harmony between those who buy and those who are obliged to sell their labor. However, the unconcealable antagonism which exists between the two classes makes this "harmony" impossible. ~ Paulo Freire

Because it is a distortion of being more fully human, sooner or later being less human leads the oppressed to struggle against those who made them so. In order for this struggle to have meaning, the oppressed must not, in seeking to regain their humanity (which is a way to create it), become in turn oppressors of the oppressors, but rather restorers of the humanity of both. ~ Paulo Freire

To impede communication is to reduce men to the status of "things"—and this is a job for oppressors, not for revolutionaries. ~ Paulo Freire


"Only a lively appreciation of dissent's vital function at all levels of society can preserve it as a corrective to wishful thinking, self-inflation, and unperceived rigidity"  The Wrong Way Home : Uncovering the patterns of cult behavior in American society | by Arthur J. Deikman, M.D
ISBN 10: 0807029157 ISBN 13: 9780807029152


Force has no place where there is need of skill.
~ Herodotus


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